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Piledrivers: Super cool, but still illegal

Anybody else find it funny that any strike that may or may not land to the back of the head sends refs into fits, but a FREAKING PILEDRIVER doesn’t result in any kind of action whatsoever? Thus the irony surrounding the Marquardt / Leites match, where Nate the Great lost a point for an illegal knee (very valid) and another point for a strike to the back of the head (that turned out to be nowhere near the back of the head). But in the dying seconds of the third round, Marquardt pulled a page out of the WWE and used a piledriver on Leites.

Actually, on second thought it’s not really a page out of the WWE any more … the company has virtually banned piledrivers because they’re too dangerous even to fake. So what the fuck is up with letting Marquardt get away with that? It should have been an instant DQ loss.

The UFC does have a rule about this, also known as FOUL 18. Well, actually I’m the only one that calls it that because it sounds fucking cooler that way. But FOUL 18 states that “Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck” is illegal. Now this isn’t the first time I’ve seen a fighter intentionally drop a guy on his head but this was probably the most brutal and intentional example I’ve seen in a while. This also isn’t one of those “might change the direction of the match” fouls, this is one of those “might require huge advances in stem cell technologies to ever walk again” fouls.

On a smaller scale, at least Leites was okay and still won the match. While I agree that the back of the head point was bullshit, I figure things worked themselves out after that gross last second foul. Now Marquardt is asking for a rematch, and if I was Leites I certainly wouldn’t agree … who wants to get in the ring with a guy who seems to have no concern for safety or the rules?

  • I want to see a rematch between these two even if Nate cheats, as Tito says “if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.”

  • garth says:

    illegal knee + piledriver (should)= no more UFC fights for Nate.

  • Fightgeek says:

    Nate showed his true colors!that was pathetic, they should drop his ass and let him go back to palm striking Japanese wrestlers.

  • Fatal Error says:

    Maybe since the fight wasn’t in the US Nate got confused and thought he was defending his King of Pancrase belt. That, or he is just an idiot that cost me $110. The piledriver was a dumbass last ditch move. He should have powerbombed him.

  • Elfenstein says:

    i was waiting for some ninja blinding eye powder …. kiyaaa

  • Dukes says:

    Let me first say that I can’t stand Nate Marquardt. I thought he was WAY overhyped coming out of pancrase, and his AWFUL match with Ivan Salavarry on SpikeTV years ago was an abination.

    That said, I don’t think he was trying for a pile driver. He *was* trying to flip Thales but lost grip and Leites dropped on his head.

    I think the knee was FAR worse in that he KNOWS the rules, and he could clearly see Thales’ knee was down on the ground, but he threw the knee anyways.

    I can’t stand Nate Marquardt.

  • godzillad says:

    It’s Leties fault for what happened. He doesn’t know how to take a bump.
    This is what Marquardt had planned:

  • Niceguy says:

    Come on now. Fuck that wasn’t anywhere near what a piledriver is. It was more funny than dangerous. Nate won the fight and deserves a rematch.

  • vinhthekid says:

    he was obviously TRYING to powerbomb him.

    if you watch the vid, there was leg-grabbage in the powerbomb attempt, which resulted in a piledriver.

  • ajadoniz says:

    im with the “that was clearly not an intentional pile-driver” crowd.

  • Geoff says:

    I’m also with the “not an intentional piledriver” crowd but I’m also a member of the “not a completely intentional” knee to the head crowd. If you watch the replay from Nate’s point of view it could have just looked like Leites was squatting as he was up on the leg that was facing Nate.

  • Joon4s says:

    That was an intentional piledriver, although a sloppy one. Marquardt can’t even break the rules correctly. That nee was 100% intentional, Leites was about to get up before the knee, so maybe Marquardt took a head start.

  • kentyman says:

    Knee: Marquardt probably figured Leites would’ve been on his feet by the time the knee landed (and he almost was), so he took a head start, hoped for the best, and failed. A point was taken, just like it should’ve.

    Elbow: Obviously no foul there. A point should not’ve been taken.

    Piledriver: It sure looked like he was trying to pick him up and drop him while he was upside down, so that’s arguably a piledriver. However, he did it really sloppily, was pushing forward (not just pulling down), and Leites actually landed on his own arms first. I actually don’t know if that’s considered a foul or not.

    I will say that Tim Boetsch’s redneck judo throw was a more successful display of “Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck”. Should that’ve been a DQ?

  • MrNiceGuyMMA says:

    Redneck Judo Throw? Ok link me a Getto Thug Judo Throw please. Otherwise you are being a racist prick.