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Non-fight fighting continues between Diaz and Mayhem

Since Jason Miller hasn’t done anything this year other than beat a few sacrificial lambs, I can understand why Nick Diaz doesn’t think Mayhem deserves to fight him. But you can’t say “I’m not going to fight this chump” while simultaneously seizing every opportunity to try and start a fight: ( learned that Diaz and Miller nearly came to blows backstage following Saturday night’s “Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Noons 2” event and had to be separated by Showtime officials.

According to a source who witnessed the scene, Diaz and Miller locked eyes while passing each other in the hallway between the dressing rooms and the pressroom as the post-event press conference took place. Words were exchanged, and Diaz allegedly threw a water bottle at Miller. The two were immediately broken up by members of their respective camps and Showtime officials.

MiddleEasy has the particulars:

As the two were approaching each other, things seemed to be somewhat civil. Out of nowhere, Nick Diaz launched a water bottle directly at Mayhem’s face — almost at point-blank range. It hit Mayhem directly in the face, water exploded everywhere and Miller looked stunned. Security got in-between the two and Nick Diaz held his arms up and said ‘Come on you fat [expletive]!’. He then tried shoving the security away to get close to Mayhem while screaming ‘Let’s do it right now!’. Nick Diaz managed to get within swinging distance, and then more security jumped in and held back Nick and finally got him to walk in the opposite direction, towards the post-fight press conference room.

Meanwhile, Strikeforce has already decided that Nick will be facing off against the winner of Paul Daley vs Scott Smith – which I assume means they REALLY REALLY hope Daley wins since Smith already got his clock cleaned by Nick. As to the possibility of Mayhem vs Diaz? Scott Coker says he can say more in two weeks, which is his new answer for every question anyone asks him.

  • G Funk says:

    The ball is in Diaz’s court on whether he wants to move up to MW or a catchweight fight.

  • Márcio says:

    Still not interested in that fight, Diaz is clearly the better fighter, he would win 90% of the time, the only chance Miller has is to lay on top for 3 rounds… boring.

  • shawn says:

    ^ I think that’s wrong. Miller is a much better fighter than a lot of people give him credit for. Any thoughts that Miller would get crushed come more from Diaz’s recent run than on any legitimate analysis of the two fighters. I’m not knocking Diaz’s current run, which is incredibly impressive, but it needs to be put into perspective. During his current 8 fight win streak, two of those wins have come against againg legends who are merely shells of their former selves (sakurai, Shamrock) and three have been against journeymen (denny, inoue, and corrbrey). The win over Smith was due to Diaz’s skills on the ground against an opponent with virtually none. The win over Zaromskis was impressive at the time but has been diminished by the Lithuanian’s subsequent loss to Cyborg. And now he just went five close rounds with KJ Noons.

    As for Miller, the two fights that stand out to me are his decision losses to Shields and Souza, where he was very competitive and dangerous against two of the best in the world. Point is, I think a Diaz-Miller fight would be very close.

  • shawn says:

    I’ll also give Coker the benefit of the doubt. If Smith pulls off a Scott Smith against Daley, he’s not going to fight Diaz immediately considering his recent loss to the guy. He’ll need another win. I think Coker might match Diaz and Miller up and then have Diaz defend his WW belt after that, no matter the outcome of Diaz-Miller.

  • mamoru says:

    Diaz is all class.
    I really hope he dies of testicular cancer.

    Like, soon.

  • Márcio says:

    Shawn, it’s not about the run, it’s about the skillset, Diaz has superior striking and submissions, Miller only has wrestling and size, so why would Diaz go up in weight to fight him? That fight makes zero sense. Miller should be fighting more and talking less. If he wants the fight so much he should be the one to drop in weight, I know he’s a big mtv star now but I don’t think is Diaz responsability to acomodate his ass. Truth of the matter is that Miller has one solid win in the last three years, against Tim Kennedy, I would like to see that rematch before he’s given a third chance against Jacare or has the chance to fight Diaz, I would pick Kennedy in the rematch by the way.

  • shawn says:

    valid points, but you’re thinking inside the small box of “hardcore MMA fan” as opposed to the box of the casual fight fan who doesnt spend hours a week keeping up to date on the fight blogs, caring about the specifics of rankings or weight class, or otherwise caring about issues that are largely unimportant when all one cares about is good fights.

    Miller and Diaz have legitimate heat stemming from the brawl that aired on FUCKING CBS. The fight is one between two high level fighters with a built in marketing approach. In a promotion filled with too few high level fighters and too few fights that people are demanding to see, that fight makes TOO MUCH SENSE.

    As to the argument about weight, terrible. Mayhem hasnt made 170 since something like 2005. Diaz has moved up to middleweight two or three times in the past few years for one-off fights that didnt mean much in the scheme of things (see Smith, Shamrock). Fight should be at middleweight, or at least at a catchweight closer to it then 170, simply for practical purposes.

    Let’s also not forget that Diaz and his boys ASSAULTED Mayhem on national television. It would be a failure on the part of Strikeforce to not at least give the guy an opportunity to avenge that beating.

  • YEAH RIGHT says:

    Mam-you sound like a classy fellow yourself, nothing screams class like wishing someone a life threatening disease.

  • Carcass says:

    I want to see Diaz fight Daley. His pitter-pat punches would get him KTFO fast against Paul. Think Dustin Hazelett. Daley is also a massive WW so could have a decent size advantage to level things on the wrestling front.

  • Márcio says:

    Nick went up in weight two times but that was before he become a champion. If Strikeforce wants to solidify their champions it makes no sense to have Nick go up in weight and risk a boring decision loss. Beyond one easy marketable fight, I can’t see, in the long run, what Strikeforce or Nick Diaz have to gain from this fight. It only makes sense for Mayhem, and knowing that aside from the HW, the MW division is Strikeforce’s most stacked division I think they’ll have no problem in finding him a more suitable opponent. I would like to see him have a rubber match with Tim Kennedy but Cung Le, Santiago, Prangley or even Misaki would be more than suitable opponents.

  • shawn says:

    Strikeforce has a lot to gain. For one, having Diaz go up in weight gives them time to further build up their WW contenders, especially if Smith pulls off the upset against Daley. They also gain from putting on a fight that the majority of the fans want to see, which equals ratings, something Strikeforce has been inconsistent with in the past.

    Plus, this isn’t the UFC — it’s not a company that lets things like titles and rankings get in the way of putting on fights the fans want to see. Not saying that’s a bad thing or a good thing, just something that doesn’t work for the UFC but does work for a company like Strikeforce.

    And any risk of Diaz losing is mitigated by the fact that he’s going up in weight. When Penn went up in weight to challenge GSP, it didn’t tarnish his status as the LW champ as he was FIGHTING A BIGGER MAN.

  • Márcio says:

    You make a good pont about the BJ vs. GSP fight, but let’s face it Nick Diaz status in nowhere near of the one BJ Penn had at the time, even now, there’s people that claim that Nick would get murdered in the UFC WW devision because of his lack of wrestling, those people seem to forget that guys like Hardy, Kampman and even Dailey managed to put on decent runs in that division. It’s a bad matchup for Nick, fighting a guy who’s bigger and a wrestler and a win has very little upside. If I was Nick I would demand mad money just to consider it. Still, I can see where your coming from and you make some valid points, let’s just agree to desagree.

  • mamoru says:

    “Mam-you sound like a classy fellow yourself, nothing screams class like wishing someone a life threatening disease.”
    Why thank you.

    I’ve never claimed to be classy, but at least I don’t run around assaulting my coworkers. Seriously, fuck Nick Diaz,

    Overrated, ridiculous, thicker than a stack of bricks waste of life.
    How many people does a guy have to assault outside of a sanctioned fight before his fans stop making excuses for him?
    And why? Is it because he’s an illiterate thug? Is it that he’s stockton trash?
    Is it his history of not making weight? Or not being able to put the bong down for a week or two to pass a test? His ridiculous conspiracy theories?

    At some point the fact that he’s a complete fucking nutcase surely has to make up for the fact that he’s a kind of entertaining borderline top 15 fighter.

  • shawn says:

    Can’t help but pretty much agree with mammary on all counts except the death wish. While Diaz is no doubt a talented fighter, as a human being he’s utter shit in all respects. And I’d agree that he’s even a bit overrated in terms of fighting ability. Looking at the UFC’s top welterweights — GSP, Fitch, Shields, Alves, Kos, Hardy, Kampmann, Thiago — I don’t see how Diaz beats any of them.

  • Márcio says:

    I’m an unabashful Diaz fan and I can’t see why the hate. The dude as smoked away most of his brain power and I find him hilarious, I think most people just take the shit that he does/says way to serious. As for him being overrated I don’t think he his, style wise he would have troubles with GSP (who doesn’t?), Fitch (all hail the human blanket) and Kos (the smack talk leading up to the fight would be epic), all the other dudes you mentioned I think he has a legit shot of beating. He may be fighting Dailey in a few months, Dailey recked Kampmann, so that should give us a more informed opinion on how he stands in the WW rankings.

  • agentsmith says:

    What I take away from his fight with Noons is that:

    a) Diaz’s awkward striking style is good enough to best a solid boxer like Noons, but his kicks looked like shit.

    b) Diaz’s takedown attempts are utter shit, and he will likely get tooled by a solid wrestler.

  • dawgbone says:

    I’m with Mam.

    I hope Nick dies in a fiery car crash and I hope Nate is stuck outside the car watching him.

  • Omomatta says:

    Diaz hasn’t been knocked out yet, so I don’t think Daley is going to knock him the fuck out. I can see him knocking Nick down, but I see Daley losing via submission.

  • G Funk says:

    Fuck the fucking Diaz brothers! They’re fucking cockroaches meign. FUCK Casper Gomez and Fuck that fuck Sosa!

  • aaronb says:

    I say Mayhem Miller takes this fight 65-75% of the time, if it goes down.

    Diaz is a long, and technical boxer. His greatest weaknesses (TD Defense and Wrestling) are the greatest strengths of Miller. Add in that Miller is the naturally bigger man. And I don’t see how Diaz finds an easy way to win?

    Maybe that has something to do with Diaz none too hot about booking this fight?

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