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Ken Pavia talks to us about Dana White and imitators

Compared to Ken Pavia from three years ago, the Ken Pavia of today is a laid back, calm individual. 2008 Ken used to write a column called ‘The Pav Says’ where amongst other things he detailed one of his fighter clients flushing his colon out. He also butted heads with UFC brass several dozen times. Ken was the ‘coward faggot’ referenced in Dana White’s infamous bitch / faggot video blog rant, was the one who revealed the UFC’s EA MMA blacklist, and was sued when he allegedly provided Bellator with certain UFC documents.

2011 Ken has a much lower profile. Other than selling his MMA agency, moving on to Takedown Entertainment and accusing the UFC of astroturfing forums with pro-UFC chatter, he’s rarely in the news. Probably a good thing since it keeps the UFC from finding new reasons to hate him. We sat down with Ken Pavia to ask him what his thoughts were on Dana White.

“I think Dana has done some good and bad things. I think you can say that about a lot of people though. People say that about me as well. I think if Peter Ueberroth or David Stern or somebody of that stature were then I think they would be. Dana has moved the needle and grown the sport. There are levels and there are levels above Dana but we could have been unfortunate and gotten somebody not as good as Dana.”

Some see MMA agent Malki Kawa as a spiritual successor to Ken, mainly because Malki isn’t afraid to open his mouth and say stuff even if it goes against the UFC grain. Kawa’s latest, greatest hit was evaporating a large amout of UFC goodwill towards his client Carlos Condit by calling bullshit on the claim that Condit had willingly stepped aside so Nick Diaz could fight Georges St Pierre. Pavia has his own thoughts on the agent.

“I think Malki is trying to steal my schtick.” Pavia said. “I used to tell people that I’m the best and the second best and I clearly still am, I just chose not to do it anymore because there’s a finite amount of money you can make and a finite amount of affect you can have on industry, quite frankly because there aren’t that many good agents who will stand up and fight. I’ve said for years that everybody competes for third. I think Malki tries to imitate me and make similar claims. Nobody works as hard as me and he’s not nearly as effective as I was.”

Things had gotten so heated between the two that we couldn’t help but prod for the possibility of an actual MMA fight between the two. As to that, Pavia demurred.

“I’m 45 years old. I hung up the gloves a long time ago. If we met in the board room then I’d destroy him. That’s my arena at this stage in my career.”

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  • Nachtfalter says:

    Instead of doing boring interview write-ups with multiple missing words and messed up sentences (seriously, didn’t you proof-read this thing at all?), you should get off your ass and record a radio-show. It’s been over a month. Be embarrassed!

  • CAP says:

    Sounds to me like the Pav got bitch slapped into place. Dana keeps his pimp hand strong.

  • Simco says:

    “Things had gotten so heated between the two that we couldn’t help but prod for the possibility of an actual MMA fight between the two. ”

    Need an editor, player.

  • iamphoenix says:

    yeahh…i have no idea what this post was about. pretty stupid altogether…

  • iamphoenix says:

    i’ll just blame RM. They fucked this site so hard.

  • Predator8u says:

    There was no new content there really. A more comprehensive write up off how the whole behind the scenes of how the ufc/MMA game is run would have been nice. Any new insight really.

  • iamphoenix says: