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some good points made here.



some good points made here.

i heard some interview gross did with jake shields. hardcores and fighters know gross is a bigtime anti ped guy. so gross asks shields his position on peds in mma. coming from cesars (where the diaz bros, melendez etc make a lot of accusations) i assumed shields would slam guys who juice. instead he stated that although hes clean and doesnt agree with juicing, its not a black and white issue like the journalists make it out to be. he talked about what fighters put their bodies through everyday and how hard it is to recover.

the cesar team is often associated with being ped free, but there was a time when their premier fighter was ridiculed for having bitch tits.