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DIAZ AND MILLER: HE SAID, SHE SAID, STFU

Nick Diaz versus Mayhem Miller is a fight that many fans want to see, a fight that Strikeforce brass wants, and a fight that both men claim that they want. Except Miller and Diaz are each acting in a way that says they do not, in fact, want to fight one another.

Here’s the latest statement from the Cesar Gracie web site.

“Jason ‘Mayhem’ Miller has opted to not take a fight with Nick Diaz in January at a catchweight of 178lbs. Despite having previously fought at the 170lbs weight limit, Miller now says that he is unwilling to meet at 178 and instead wants Strikeforce’s Welterweight Champion to move up to middleweight to fight him. Miller has stated he would be willing to lose 2 pounds and fight at 183lbs. As of yet Miller has defeated none of the top Strikeforce contenders but did win a fight on MTV’s Bully Beatdown show. Strikeforce will now be searching for a new opponent for Diaz for their January card.”

Now cue some commentary from Cage Potato.

If either had any intention of actually fighting, we’re pretty sure they could find a weight agreeable to both parties. As of right now, they’ve become those two guys at the bar who are just posturing and getting in each other’s faces about who bumped into who, but everybody watching knows they aren’t really going to do anything about it. In the wake of this and on behalf of MMA fans everywhere, please forgive us for ” target=”_blank”>paraphrasing one of Al Pacino’s screamiest roles when we say: Either fight each other, or stop wasting our motherfucking time.

So it all boils down to this: Diaz wants to fight at 178 while Miller likes 183. Aside from both guys postuing for position in a fight that has never actually been booked, this is yet another example of Strikeforce failing to have any control over their fighters. I’ll praise the shit out of the company for Saturday night’s show, which was awesome, but that doesn’t give them a free pass to get away with bullshit like this.

What Strikeforce is doing is allowing their fighters to veto a bout the organization wants by not stepping in and laying down the law. Diaz and Miller can’t agree on a weight? So what. Coker should step in and tell these guys what weight their fighting at. It’s that simple. Let me offer a suggestion, Scott: 180.5 pounds. Sounds arbitrary, but it’s the exact middle point between 178 and 183. No need to check this, as I am a well-educated mathematician, having successfully completed grade school math. If Miller says he can’t drop 4.5 pounds, call bullshit. If Diaz says he shouldn’t have to fight at a weight he doesn’t want to because he’s the champ, tell him that he works for you, not vice versa, and that there’s always the option of getting his ass kicked in the shark-infested waters of the UFC 170-pound division.

I believe this is a logical solution to the current dillemma, as I possess a quality that Strikeforce brass too often lacks when dealing with its fighters: common sense.

 

35 COMMENTS
  • glassjawsh says:

    i was born with an almost complete lack of common sense, both theoretical and applied. and even i can see that 180 is the best possible solution.

    a pimp pimps hos that need to be pimped. and these hos need to learn their place. Coker might need to hit a bitch for them to learn their lesson

  • agentsmith says:

    glassjawsh is correct. I’m sure Mayhem is bigger now then he was back when he fought at 170, but not so much that he can’t make 180. His 183 counteroffer is a joke, there’s no point in fucking around with a catchweight at all if we’re only talking about 2 pounds.

  • Márcio says:

    Miller is a liar and delusional. He calls out Diaz and he expects the champ to go up in weight to fight him, yeah right, good luck with that. 178 is halfway and would be more than fair, the only reason he won’t cut he’s because he’s a chicken shit and knows that the only way he would stand a chance against Diaz, who is a better striker and grappler would be to outweigh him by 20 pounds on fight night and hold him down against the cage. What a joke.

  • CAP says:

    178 lbs. Don’t be scared to pee blood homie! That’s half way and makes sense if you ask me so of course it won’t work.

  • shawn says:

    In Miller’s defense, the dude hasn’t fought at 170 in about 5 years and he did look pretty skeletor-ish even back then. And Marcio, using the same logic, Diaz is picking a weight he knows Miller either can’t make or, if he did make it, would be so flushed and tired that it would greatly increase Diaz’s chances for victory.

    Diaz and Gracie are making it out like Miller should walk through hell for the right to face the champ, but the fact is that Miller is the one that got jumped by Diaz and friends, not vice versa. This is a grudge match, people. Championships are irrelevant when you stomp a guy out on national television for trying to promote himself at a bad time.

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    If Mayhem’s so big he can’t fight in Nick’s weight class, why’s he sweatin’ him so much? Because of a “bully beatdown” that the bully claims didn’t even leave a bruise or hurt him in the least? Notice he ain’t runnin’ his mouth at anyone in his own weightclass.

    Take the fight at the weight offered or STFU. Don’t be a bitch, homie.

    This is so tiring. It’s like an M1 negotiation involving Aleks and Brock Lesnar.

  • shawn says:

    DJ: Do you not realize that Mayhem is angling for a big payday? There are NO fights in Strikeforce for Mayhem that offer the high profile and main event-type match-up that a fight with Diaz offers him. The guy is talking shit against Diaz because Diaz was part of the group that attacked him on national television, and he knows people love a good ol’ grudge match. Fight promotion isn’t rocket science, brah.

  • glassjawsh says:

    @ DJ – “If Mayhem’s so big he can’t fight in Nick’s weight class, why’s he sweatin’ him so much?”

    M O N E Y

  • Márcio says:

    Shawn 178 more than fair, it’s the middle, both would have to sacrifice. Miller is the one asking Diaz to fight at a weight he never fought before, not very reasonable if you ask me.

  • shawn says:

    Diaz fought at 179 and 180 twice last year, making 180 or 181 perfectly fine for him.

    Using the same argument you just did, Diaz is asking Miller to drop to a weight lower than he’s fought at in over 5 years. Point is, it goes both ways. Both fighters are putting undue burdens on the other with their demands, making 180 or 181 the perfect compromise.

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    Shawn Jr: Fight promotion isn’t rocket science, brah.

    Hah, you read the beginning and stopped didn’t you? I knew I should have pulled-out of yer momma. Oh well … extasy is a helluva drug.

    Shawn Sr.Take the fight at the weight offered or STFU

    He needs it more than Diaz – Daley’s coming for Nick and that’s money for Diaz and guaranteed ratings for CBS or showtime. Mayhem’s known for his highlight reel of decisions in Strikeforce. Granted, there’s nothing else on either of their horizon’s after Daley, but if Jason wants the fight then take it and come in overweight.

    It ain’t rocket science Brosevelt Franklin.

  • Márcio says:

    Diaz doesn´t need the fight, he’s a champion and he has a strong fanbase. Miller on the other hand has bully beatdown. He’s the one who needs this fight.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    im with shawn on this one, and not because I hope Diaz dies in a fire. He is the instigator and has fought at or very near that weight class a few times in recent years. hell the lazy retard has come in at 180lbs for a 170 lb fight.

  • Rodriguez says:

    “hell the lazy retard has come in at 180lbs for a 170 lb fight.”

    He came in at 170lbs for a 160 lb fight. Check your facts, you lazy retard.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    oh yeah ur right… the made up elitexc weight divisions. i forgot what a diaz nuthugger you are

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    i forgot what a diaz nuthugger fact-checker you are

    I pasted it in and Firefox fixed it automagically.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    i forgot about that fight since he should have lost it anyways

  • Rodriguez says:

    He should have lost the fight where he pounded Mushin Cobbery’s head flat for a TKO?

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    Rod, what’s with you and all these facts? Let them play themselves because of their dislike of Diaz. It’s more fun.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    ^i dont think either of you got that joke because Nicks balls blocked your view

  • shawn says:

    Gentlemen, I pose a simple question:

    Diaz v. Miller OR Diaz v. Daley?

    I go with the former. Why? Because I love a good grudge match, and also because it gives Strikeforce an opportunity to further build up Paul Daley with fights against Cyborg or Noons.

    What say you?

  • glassjawsh says:

    daley v cyborg please. it’d actually be interesting for a round before cyborg gassed horribly

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    Clint – Nick’s a scrapper who can’t stop a takedown and would get MURDERED in the UFC. I don’t have his balls in my mouth, but Mayhem does. Thus the bullshit. All he has to do is agree to the weight and then not make it if he wants it. Anyone who wants something has to sacrifice for it. Diaz doesn’t give a shit about him, so he needs to sacrifice nothing.

    Shawn – good point. I’d rather see Daley and Cris’ wife before the Diaz fight. But would they put Ms borg on the main card? Would Showtime go for that?

    I certainly hope so. I hope they can see an entertaining fighter despite his non-star status. Scott Smith had exposure and was proven to entertain in Elite. Any thoughts guys?

    I still don’t give a shit about Mayhem versus Nick tho. He should fight Lawler or Kennedy. Someone in his own weightclass if he’s complaining that he get to the same class as his opponent unless his opponent gets out of shape. And i notice no one has a counter for my previous arguments. You guys suck.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    sorry to lump in with the diaz huggers wrongfully.
    Id rather strikeforece use this semi frakshow fight to promote other good fighter on a card

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    They could do the same with Diaz/Daley. It’d be guaranteed to excite instead of perceived excitement or “hotness” MMA bloggers/smarks think there is with Jason and Nicky.

    Mayhem’s known to Showtime’s audience for the Shields decision and a tko over nobody who nobody saw. And the Sakuraba sub no causal fan ever saw.

    Daley and Diaz can deliver in the hype game far beyond Mayhem’s hackneyed trick-ass shit, while also delivering in the cage and I think the casual fan knows that.

    But I’m no casual fan, and I rarely even agree with hardcores, so I realize I could be completely fucktarded about this.

  • frickshun says:

    Fight hype is for sheep.

    I’d love Diaz/Daley. As much as I am a fan of Mayhem for being Mayhem, he’s not a very exciting fighter. He’s tough & rounded, but I don’t see him beating the top Strikeforce guys.

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    FYI – I’m actually a huge Mayhem fan and still have an old Superbrawl HL DVD featuring a number of his old matches when he knew jack shit. I just think picking on a snake smaller than you for being a snake is a punk move. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

  • frickshun says:

    But 2 rights make a left.

    Anybody see when Mayhem came out to “Kung Fu Fighting”, kicked the head off 1 pinata & ripped the head off another? Funniest entrance I’ve ever seen. It was on an HD Net broadcast a few years ago.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    i think that was the fight aganst tim kennedy

  • frickshun says:

    That was a pretty good fight.

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    FOCK!!! I forgot the Kenendy fight in my insults. Probably because it didn’t prove my point or I don’t actually remember the fight itself. This is not to insult Mayhem or Kennedy, but my own stupidity.

    BTW – since you two and Chitbag are the only cats I would piss on if you were on fire, and I wasn’t busy doing something else – I’m still working on the My Forums block, but I’m mad busy catching up at work. Ryan’s gonna send me some info for the site backend and I’ll be able to dig in to the data structures and hooks this weekend. Luckily some of my work stuff is Drupal-related but I’m just maaaad stressed right now trying to play ketchup and find a new apartment. Speaking of which, back to work.

  • frickshun says:

    Waaah waaaah waaah. When did this place turn into a daycare?

    Like Mel Gibson said in Ransom: “GIVE ME BACK…..MY FORUMS!!”

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    Don’t make me take a hammer to yer toes!

  • Reverend Clint says:

    yeah thats was the fight that made me a Tim Kennedy fan, the fact he has killed dudes legit doesnt hurt either.

  • frickshun says:

    1) DJ–>I’m impressed you even found my comment considering this is off the home page!!

    2) Clint–>I wish Kennedy would fucking fight more!! His last fight was like 5-6 mo’s ago….

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