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Big Nog’s coaches think he won

Gotta love Brazilians and their ability to rationalize any loss as a screwjob perpetrated against their fighter. Even one as clear cut as Big Nog’s loss to Frank Mir:

Dorea, the boxing mentor of Team Nogueira, protests that the referee should have stopped the fight as soon as Mir was flattened and seemingly unresponsive under Nogueira’s attack.

“Minotauro landed a sequence of attacks and left Mir passive on the ground, without defence and with his head downward taking more punches. He was passive. That was the signal for the referee to have stopped the fight at that time,” he told blog Por Dentro da Arena.

“Mir was defenceless but not all referees behave of the same way. Despite the standard improving, there are still are fails in to MMA refereeing.”

I’ve always been of the opinion that if a fighter comes back from a bad place to win the fight, it kinda proves that the referee didn’t screw up. It’s not like this was one of those wonky situations like Nick Diaz vs Paul Daley where both got knocked onto queer street but only one was given the opportunity to continue. Frank Mir managed to take control and twist Nog’s arm backwards. Nothing controversial there.

Meanwhile, Dana White had this to say about Nog’s loss:

“[Nogueira] was two punches away from winning that fight [against Frank Mir]. Instead he passed the guard and tried to apply a guillotine on Frank Mir. Nobody understood that. He will regret that decision for the rest of life. It was his fight. It was finished. I do not know how he sleeps after that.’

  • DJ ThunderElbows says:

    First:  Mir was controlling Nog’s leg after the shot was sprawled, which is why Nog couldn’t get a better angle to finish by strikes, so the fight wasn’t over.

    Second: Nog’s won, what, 3 fights by (T)KO?  How many by sub?  Mir left his neck out on the shot while seeing stars and Nog grabbed it.  It’s his natural reaction to submit mammals whenever the opportunity presents itself.

    Why isn’t it completely obvious to everyone that Mir could’ve been tapped out just as easily as Nog was in that situation?  Then would they all be saying “Mir shot on Nog?  What was he thinking???”

    I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

    And Dana:

    “[Anyone] was two punches away from winning that fight [against any-fucking-body].”

    There, fixed it for you.

  • SST says:

    Herb hates Big Nog. He stopped their first fight early and stopped this one late so Mir could recover. He told Nog to stop hitting Mir on the side of the head, so Nog went for the sub.

  • iamphoenix says:

    ^you being cereal because I’m internet loling. if you aren’t, i doubt herb has these evil plans.

  • Letibleu says:

    Mir and Herb are cousins.

  • Reverend Clint says:

    Brazilian excuses

  • Symbul says:

    It would’ve been defensible to stop the fight but there’s no way you can claim in retrospect that it was the wrong call. Brazilians be crazy, yo.

  • thingvolds says:

    “I’ve always been of the opinion that if a fighter comes back from a bad place to win the fight, it kinda proves that the referee didn’t screw up.”

    your opinion is wrong.

    if a fighters is knocked out, or unresponsive, or not intelligently defending himself, the rules are the fight is to be stopped. it doesn’t matter what may or may not happen if he suddenly comes to and is able to recover.

    essentially what you’re saying seems to be “if a fighter is in a bad place, the referee should allow him to get pummeled an extra 30 seconds or so just in case the other guy makes a mistake and allows him to regain consciousness”.

    that is retarded.

  • NateRupe says:

    Your opinion is wrong. It’s over when you can’t win anymore, these guys aren’t pussies. Anyoen who says this fight should have been stopped there is mentally retarded or in Nog’s corner.